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Senior Itiler

Joined: Feb 23, 2005
Posts: 458
Location: London

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me a good PM is excessively anal but with good administrative skills.


By the way, I feel left out that I'm not able to join the GOGs, I'm too young. Well, I think so, what's the minimum age for entry?
Did I just say that out loud?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm a little over 22, but I'm not telling what base I use.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one of the GoGoG - Grand Ole Grumpy Old Gits, I can say that there is no age requirement

The Old in the GoG is a title - a casting of age = wisdom = old

sort of like the Big kahuna - usually is some young person wiser than his years

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good PM will question every action and promise (like "yes those time estimates are safe") put forward by project team members who can't be trusted - and will accept answers from trusted team members without causing them pointless workload and hassles.

I've yet to meet the PM ... in fact anyone at all ... who has such good judgement of how much to trust each person deserves. Wink
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Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get back to the basics,
PM works on timeframe basis thus have time constraint.
ITIL works on ongoing/routine activities.
This itself would make the difference.
Sometimes they could compliment, sometimes they couldn't.
Having both certificates would be good but taking advantage of both at the same time would really depend
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